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Friday, November 03, 2006

 

3 Days

Atrios on November in Iraq:

There have been 11 troop deaths in Iraq in November.

It's the third day in November.


Joe Lieberman wants at least three more years of this.

Enough.

Vote for change.
Comments:
more good news eh tparty?
 
Good news? What an odd thing to suggest.
 
You would thing Justin, but as my son would say it is opposite day. More soldiers die--good news for the democrats. The economy goes into a recession--good news for the democrats. Another terrorist attack--more good news. You see, if it is bad news for the country, it is good news for the democrats. They can use it to remind all of us how incompetent the Bush administration is. Because they really dont actually stand for anything on their own, they are AGAINST everything.
 
That's the same as suggesting Wellstone's plane crash was "good news" if you voted Republican.

Against everything? Does that seem reasonable?
 
tell you what. Read this blog and tell me what Ned stands FOR. This is the anti bush, anti joe blog, not the pro ned blog. You are right that it doesnt seem reasonable, but it does seem true.

We won't go to the wellstone situation, the dems made the best of his funeral errr political convention.
 
Well, you avoided the Wellstone comparison.

I vote Democrat, and I'm"for" a lot of things: universal healthcare, lobbyist reform, guaranteed civil rights and voter protections, changing the course in Iraq, improving public education . . . So, am I not "for" these things, or am I not a Democrat?
 
I'm for a lot of those things too. Not universal health care because that compromises our system which is the best in the world. lobbyist reform would be nice, but the last time they tried it we got mccain fiengold which caused the 527s (done wonders for tv industry and the post office though). Our rights are guaranteed by the constitution, so I dont think party matters there. Voter protection? Do you know of a voter who has EVER been denied his right to vote? What course exactly should we be on in Iraq? How will ned change the course? Public education improvement? Hmm seems to me that the teachers unions have done all they can to be sure that NEVER happens. I'm all for improvement there, but I think the answer lies in your town, not the federal government.
 
oh wellstone. Well yes he died and the republicans got his seat, but I dont recall the rupublicans exploiting his death the way the democrats did. Do you have a different recollection--it was 4 or 6 years ago. I also don't recall the republicans publicly rooting for his death by airplane or any other method. But again my memory might be hazy
 
"I'm for a lot of those things, too." Glad you admit, then, that Democrats are not "against everything."

In what way would universal healthcare "compromise" our healthcare system, and in what ways is it the "best in the world"? Public financing of elections, enforceable equal time, limits on corporate "bundling" of donations, restrictions on gifts, and imrpoved defintions of quid pro quos--all ways to reform lobbyist influence. Voter protection--c'mon EA! IRV-legislation, ballot access laws, the Voting Rights Act (which the Republicans held up for a vote until the media made it a story). Iraq--just what Ned and experts like Gen. Bill Odum have said--redeploy throughout the region, provide logistical and humanitarian support. What's the alternative, other than a tri-state solution? "STay the course? That doesn't mean anything, right? As for public education, I'd probably agree with you--federalizing education, as we've seen with the unfunded mandat of No CHild Left Behind, is disasterous.



Who "publicly roots" for casualties in Iraq?
 
@justinh -- A+ for effort in trying to respond to energybanalist. He's an idiot, and apparantly, so is his son. Tparty has already told him to "F" off for the same comment about the troop deaths. It just demonstrates what a low life he is to even print that crap. And, guess what, I know plenty of folks who were intimidated out of voting -- I grew up in segregated Baltimore. You must be really whitebread, energybanalist.

So back to justinh. Your points are all terrific, just wasted on someone who wears a lightbulb for a hat.
 
Our system is the best in the world based on the fact that if you are wealthy and sick in some country with UHC, where do you go? The US. As always, the motives are noble, but the results would be predictable. The rich would go to private doctors who would work for cash and everyone else would be stuck in the system. I dont want to finance elections. why should my dollars go to what is generally a pack of liars and thieves (both sides). I actually invited some guys from the DOE to speak to some of my clients--They had to reimburse me for the coffee let alone lunch. The system is broke because of too many rules, not too few. Many of the things you are complaining about came to be out of the last volley of restrictions. It needs to be fixed but taxpayer money isnt the answer. And the equal time issue is an enormous step backward. You talk about voter rights I have 2 words and 4 numbers Saint Louis in 2000.

As for Iraq. Stay the course was never ever do the same thing every day until it works, it was to continue taking the fight to the enemy. Leaving sounds great to me, but what does it accomplish. It leaves a mess and enboldens our enemies. Arm chair generals all have great ideas, but I do believe that there are professionals making the decisions here (and no they are not in the White house). If the terrorists didnt get support in the form of some of the things said about our millitary and our leaders by those in the opposition, they may have turned tail long ago.
 
It was nice writing with you Justin. Good to see someone here with some sense--unlike the Chaucer who has won the AH of the year award since he turned 9. Anyone who disagrees with him is an idiot. Imagine that from a liberal no less.
 
An editorial scheduled to appear on Monday in Army Times, Air Force Times, Navy Times and Marine Corps Times,

calls for the resignation of Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.

For two years, American sergeants, captains and majors training the Iraqis have told their bosses that Iraqi troops have no sense of national identity, are only in it for the money, don't show up for duty and cannot sustain themselves.

Meanwhile, colonels and generals have asked their bosses for more troops. Service chiefs have asked for more money.

And all along, Rumsfeld has assured us that things are well in hand.

Now, the president says he'll stick with Rumsfeld for the balance of his term in the White House.

This is a mistake.

It is one thing for the majority of Americans to think Rumsfeld has failed. But when the nation's current military leaders start to break publicly with their defense secretary, then it is clear that he is losing control of the institution he ostensibly leads.

These officers have been loyal public promoters of a war policy many privately feared would fail. They have kept their counsel private, adhering to more than two centuries of American tradition of subordination of the military to civilian authority.

And although that tradition, and the officers' deep sense of honor, prevent them from saying this publicly, more and more of them believe it.


"Now They Tell Us"

Neo Culpa

As Iraq slips further into chaos, the war's neoconservative boosters have turned sharply on the Bush administration, charging that their grand designs have been undermined by White House incompetence.

In a series of exclusive interviews, Richard Perle, Kenneth Adelman, David Frum, and others play the blame game with shocking frankness. Target No. 1: the president himself.

Three years later, Perle and I meet again at his home outside Washington, D.C. It is October, the worst month for U.S. casualties in Iraq in almost two years, ...

Perle is unrecognizable as the confident hawk who, as chairman of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board Advisory Committee, had invited the exiled Iraqi dissident Ahmad Chalabi to its first meeting after 9/11. "The levels of brutality that we've seen are truly horrifying, and I have to say, I underestimated the depravity," Perle says now, adding that total defeat—an American withdrawal that leaves Iraq as an anarchic "failed state"—is not yet inevitable but is becoming more likely.


Stay The Course

Mission Not Accountable
 
Palmer, you didnt get all the talking points in there--you missed the bush lied part
 
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